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flameproof -

Did anyone here do the Pimsleur Cantonese? I did some of it. But with only 30 lessons it's WAY too
little. 90 lessons as with Mandarin would be a good start.

Maybe we should do a wiki style project! Write down a transscript of each Mandarin lesson, and
then do a voice recording with some native speakers. So basically do our own Pimsleur.

Those interested in SHnese could do the same too.



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pookie -

That's a great idea if we could find poeople willing to do the transcript - a big project. I found
the same with Pimsleurs Korean. Only lessons 1 - 30. I'm on lesson 87 with Mandarin and would love
the same detail for the Korean.

I'm being a bit adventurous really. I'm doing Pimsleurs Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, and Cantonese
all at the same time. Scientifically speaking this should be detrimental to my learning but so far
it's working ok. It's about 3 hours per day if you include the pauses but is an effective way to
learn for me. Mandarin is my dominant second language so sometimes I answer Japanese questions in
mandarin automatically by accident.

I'm finding Japanese the hardest, Korean the most interesting (maybe because this is newest for
me), and Cantonese the least interesting. As I would like to live in all four regions I have all
the motivation i need.

Anyone else tried concurrent multiple pimsleur learning?










skylee -

Commuting for 2 hours twice a day? From where to where?










flameproof -



Quote:

Pimsleur Cantonese is junk ->

I think their system is good. You can do it while driving, or whatever. But 30 lessons is not
eneugh. 90, as in Mandarin, is a good jumpstart for further studies. I really like that there is
no book. The Yale writing is really hard to understand and one is bound to pronounce words wrong.



Quote:

my releatives who laughed at my ROBOTIC innoations.

People may speak bad English to me, but I never recall laughing at one. I always have respect for
people who speak another language. Specially with Chinese, they usually don't have the 'don't
care' approach and are very afraid of errors.

BTW, I recall one error in the Pimsleur course. Somewhere when they talked about open/close it
said "mun' had no literal meaning, but actually means 'door'.










skylee -

Wollongong = 臥龍崗, nice name.










mikeedward -

I really think highly of the Pimsleur courses as an introduction to a language. It is just an
introduction though, even if you go through all 90 lessons in the Mandarin course. I don't think
anyone has to worry about sounding like a robot afterwards though. If you're studying 10 hours a
day, you could do all 90 lessons in about 10 days, allowing an hour per 30 minute lesson. Not bad
for 500 words. But I think they recommend 1 lesson per day, which gives you lots of time to use
other learning resources such as books, videos, software, etc, while letting the Pimsleur recall
method sink in. If you get nothing else out of Pimsleur except solid pronunciation with correct
tones, it's still worth it. It isn't really a vocabulary building tool, so hopefully no one gets
hung up on how many words they learned. Pimsleur really helps build a solid foundation in your
language of study. Increasing your vocabulary can come later after that foundation has been built.

Mike










gato -



Quote:

If you're studying 10 hours a day, you could do all 90 lessons in about 10 days, allowing an hour
per 30 minute lesson. Not bad for 500 words.

Learning only 500 words in 100 hours of study? That sounds highly inefficient to me, even if you
are studying the notoriously difficult Chinese. Can you carry a conversation after learning these
500 words?










mikeedward -

I'm saying learning 500 words in 10 days isn't bad... especially the first 500 words you learn in
a new language. Anyways, I was trying to say Pimsleur isn't for learning vocab, but for building a
solid foundation in a language.










rose~ -

I am using Pimsleur at the moment. I find it OK, but I would be happy for it to move a little
faster. Also, it makes me chuckle a bit as it is tailored to the American male...

e.g., an actualy sentence was along the lines of:

Quote:

"You are sitting in a restaurant with a Chinese woman. Ask her if she would like to come to your
place."




What is a better alternative to Pimsleur?










mikeedward -

Wannabeafreak, you mentioned in another thread that you did each Pimsleur lesson 6 times. I
totally agree with you that that was a complete waste of time.












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